Luis Bárcenas himself taught the Papeles a Trias, who took photocopies and two years later put them in the hands of Gerardo Viada, the lawyer who handed them to the newspaper El País. Trías held several meetings with Mariano Rajoy as well as with other characters such as Javier Arenas or Federico Trillo. He also held meetings with the investigating judge of the Antonio Pedreira case, now deceased .. he assures that the ex-president of the Government was aware of the Gürtel and assures that the magistrate Pedreira asked him to transfer the PP to stop sending him

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